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Here’s something from our friend Brian Brown, Executive Director of NOM–National Organization for Marriage, on the Prop 8 case in CA that Jennifer Morse has been involved in.
Proposition 8 appeal judge Vaughn Walker seems to have had one goal: to generate sympathy for gay marriage supporters.
In a story last Sunday the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Proposition 8 judge Vaughn Walker is gay and called his orientation, “The biggest open secret in the landmark trial over same-sex marriage.” Read more…
No, this headline did not come from me, or NOM, or any other advocate of natural marriage. The NYT, well-known social conservative mouth-piece, reported:
When Rio and Ray married in 2008, the Bay Area women omitted two words from their wedding vows: fidelity and monogamy…. Read more…
The Catholics for the Common Good website reports this statement from Ron Prentice and Andy Pugno:
“What may be lost in all the sensationalism of the past two and a half weeks of trial is that the burden of proof to invalidate Prop 8 lies squarely with the plaintiffs. They cannot win unless they prove that the voters were “irrational” when they chose to preserve the traditional definition of marriage in our state. Contrary to their public relations claims, Read more…
Read these two accounts of the same day in the courtroom of the Prop 8 trial. See if you can tell which one is on record as the advocate for one side, and which one is an “independent” professional journalistic account. Is this the objective account? Read more…
Dale Carpenter is a very sensible gay man, a law professor at the University of Minnesota, and an advocate of same sex marriage. He offers this analysis of the likely outcome of the Prop 8 trial. For my readers who are not regular court watchers, or trained in the law: Prof Carpenter’s analysis highlights the high stakes of this case. Much more that just Prop 8 is at stake in this case. If the courts discover that dual gender marriage violates the US Constitution, we will have same sex marriage everywhere in America.
As a legal strategy, the Prop 8 litigation was always a high-stakes bet. The bet was that there were either five votes on the Supreme Court to strike down Prop 8 or that, by the time the case works its way up, there would be five votes to do so. … A successful outcome for David Boies and Ted Olson means a successful outcome in the Supreme Court — not merely a win in Judge Walker’s trial court or even a win in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Like many others, I was dubious from the beginning about this bet. I don’t see how you get to a 5-4 majority on the current Court to Read more…
Here is the report from ADF today.
As we moved into the third week of the trial, there was a sense that the winds were about to shift and, shortly before noon on the 10th day, the winds did change. After two weeks of emotional appeals, persecution of religious beliefs, and experts who were unraveled by the cross-examinations of the ProtectMarriage.com legal team, the plaintiffs moved to what I would call a “document dump.”
Without calling a single witness, the plaintiffs sought to move into evidence several documents which they believed helped their case. These included printouts from Web sites that were not run by the ProtectMarriage.com campaign, as well as DVDs Read more…
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