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It Takes a lot of Faith to Believe in Same-Sex Marriage

July 27th, 2010

(July 21, 2010) Though NOM’s Summer Marriage Tour continues through August 15, Annapolis, Maryland is Dr J’s last stop.  Her final talk is entitled “It Takes a lot of Faith to Believe in Same-Sex Marriage.”  Listen below or at our podcast page.

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  1. Heidi
    July 27th, 2010 at 19:19 | #1

    Yet another study to prove that same-sex couples make great parents!

    http://people.virginia.edu/~cjp/articles/ffp10b.pdf

  2. Leo
    July 28th, 2010 at 09:25 | #2
  3. Norrie
    July 28th, 2010 at 09:44 | #3

    We’re not saying they don’t. We’re just saying that to get to same-sex parenting, there has to be a lot of government redefinition and redistribution, and as such, it represents an exception to the general rule and does not merit a redefinition of marriage for everyone.

  4. Heidi
    July 28th, 2010 at 10:29 | #4

    Well, thanks for deciding that my family and so many others do not deserve the equal protection of the laws…especially when your own marriage will not be affected in the least, nor will the choices of heterosexuals to marry and have children. For that matter, nor will the denial of our civil rights affect OUR choices to raise children, it will just make it harder for us and our children. Yeah, thanks a bunch for the second-class citizenship.

  5. Norrie
    July 29th, 2010 at 10:23 | #5

    Heidi, no one is relegating you to second-class citizenship. You don’t get to redefine marriage for everyone, so you’re automatically a second-class citizen? Really?

    Let’s address and solve the practical problems you face in ways other than redefining marriage. The problems that are legal in nature (property rights, end-of-life questions, visitation, insurance) can certainly be solved that way. Issues facing your children and your attachment to them must be solved in a different way because the way you and your partner are attached to them is different. For them to be your children, the rights that would automatically belong to [at least] one bio parent must be reassigned to another person. This is not what normally happens in a marriage. It doesn’t make legal sense to treat these situations as though they are identical.

    Also, right now if the kids want to find out about (or have a relationship with) their bio parents as they get older, their ability to do that is largely dependent on whatever personal arrangements were made by the adult parties involved. This definitely doesn’t proactively protect the rights of the child, as many children separated from bio parents have this desire at some point in their lives. (Additionally, there are medical reasons to know your biological roots and have access to biological family members.)

  6. Chairm
    July 31st, 2010 at 00:34 | #6

    Good summary, Norrie.

    Equal protection amongst the families in the nonmarriage category is definitely available, already, through provisions for deisgnated beneficiaries. SSMers do not provide a good reason, much less a mandate, for government on behalf of society to treat her favored subset of nonmarriage as superior to the rest.

    It comes down to whether or not society may justly discriminate between marriage and nonmarriage. SSM argumentation mistakenly presupposes that the SSM merger with marriage would expand marriage rather than reduce its societal significance to that of nonmarriage.

    It does take a heap load of faith in gay identity politics to buy-in to the SSM campaign’s arbitrary line-drawing.

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