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Rosie O’Donnell is dating…

January 4th, 2010

She broke up with her 12 year lover/”wife” in October. She had 4 children with Kelli. Now she is dating her new love interest, named Tracy, who has six children.  How nice.

Rosie O’Donnell made herself a poster child for same sex marriage and parenting. Now, she’s a poster child for what, exactly?

And don’t lay the guilt trip on me, “heterosexuals do this all the time,” nonsense. I’ve been on a campaign against divorce for a long time. The fact is that data as we have it right now strongly suggests that same sex unions are less stable than opposite sex unions, with most data pointing toward two women being the least stable combination. 

Does anybody care about the impact on these 10 kids, who are getting passed around?

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  1. John Wilkinson
    January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 | #1

    The fact is that data as we have it right now strongly suggests that same sex unions are less stable than opposite sex unions, with most data pointing toward two women being the least stable combination.

    Nonsense. Which data are you talking about? The Dutch study that didn’t include married partners?

    Unmarried same-sex couples? Yet your friend Maggie points out in her book on the benefits of marriage that unmarried couplehood is much less stable than married couplehood.

    How about some valid data comparing same-sex married couples and mixed-sex married couples?

    Admit it: you’re making it up as you go.

  2. January 6th, 2010 at 20:39 | #2

    My dear Mr. Wilkinson,
    I never make things up. Here is the information I am aware of as of now.

    “Female unions seem to have the highest divorce rates, followed by male unions, followed by opposite sex unions.
    For Sweden, the divorce risk for partnerships of men is 50% higher than the risk for heterosexual marriages, and that the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men.
    For Norway, divorce risks are 77% higher in lesbian partnerships than in those of gay men. (The Norwegian data did not include a comparison with opposite sex couples.)
    In California, the data is collected a little differently. The study looks at couples who describe themselves as partners, whether same sex or opposite sex. The study asks the question, how likely is it that these couples live in the same household five years later. Male couples were only 30% as likely, while female couples were less that 25% as likely, as heterosexual married couples, to be residing in the same household for five years.
    The only contradictory data I have found to this pattern is from the Netherlands. In the Dutch data, same sex couples have a 3.15 times greater dissolution rate than opposite sex cohabiting couples, and a 3.15 x 3.66 or 11.5 times greater dissolution rate than opposite married couples. But, female couples seem to be more stable than male couples.
    I have posted this on the Ruth INstitute website, under the quizzes, as I used this in a quiz a few months back.

  3. January 6th, 2010 at 20:42 | #3

    Whoops. i didn’t mean to post that just yet. hit the wrong button….
    Anyhow, here is the link to the quiz and its answer. http://www.ruthinstitute.org/pages/marriageQuiz.html
    And here are the references:
    Andersson, Gunnar, Turid Noack, Ane Seierstad, and Harald Weedon-Fekjaer, “The Demographics of Same Sex Marriages in Norway and Sweden,” Demography Vol 43, No. 1 (February 2006) 79-98.
    Gates, Gary, “Characteristics and Predictors of Coresidential Stability among Couples,” California Center for Population Research, Working Paper, CCPR-069-06, December 2006.
    Kalmijn, Matthijs, Anneke Loeve, and Dorien Manting, “Income Dynamics in Couples and the Dissolution of Marriage and Cohabitation.” Demography, Vol. 44, No. 1, Feb 2007: 159-179.
    Please note: my original post was quite restrained. I said, “data as we have it right now strongly suggests that same sex unions are less stable than opposite sex unions, with most data pointing toward two women being the least stable combination.” The data is tentative, but highly suggestive, as it seems to be stacking up in one direction.

  4. January 6th, 2010 at 20:52 | #4

    BTW, Mr. Wilkinson, there is another study that I didn’t cite in my quiz answer. A study by Lawrence Kurdek purports to show that female couples have the highest relationship quality of any type of union. (That’s because his indicators of relationship quality are biased toward female-friendly activites, IMHO, but that’s a different story.) In any case, in the course of presenting his data, Kurdek makes an almost throw-away observation: after 10 years, the break-up rate among his female couples is 26%, among the male couples is 27%, and is 19% for heterosexual couples without children and 13% for heterosexual couples with children. (Apparently same sex couples with children were excluded from the study.)
    Full citation: “Change in Relationship quality for Partners from Lesbian, Gay Male and Heterosexual Couples,” Lawrence Kurdek, Journal of Family Psychology, 2008, Vol. 22, No. 5, pp 701-711.

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